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Hmm...

Brief explanation for the Changeling deficient.

My PC is William ap Gwydion. Who just so happens to be Duke of Thorns (and the only PC Duke in the country). He started life as an honest, courageous and slightly dimwitted fellow. As he's developed, he's become less dimwitted and stuff has happened to him and so forth.

Recent events have left him in a bit of state. He's lost the woman he loved, and it was as a result of his inaction and indecisiveness - largely his fault. In addition, he broke an Oath (insert whinge here - I wonder if he did). He's largely a wreck at the moment.

Many of the other PC's are ideologically opposed to him. Also, they have this occasional habit of destroying the freehold.

Right. I'm wending towards the point here.

Am I, or more specifically, is my character, damaging the game?

It seems to me that people have taken the opportunity to kick him while he's down. Now, I must confess that I don't understand why he's _so_ unpopular, being genuinely one of the good guys. But at the moment, I don't know that I could walk into a game and play him at the moment. Which is worrying.

So...should I keep playing the character?

Oh, and Re the subject of this post: "Look! A ship!"
Date: 2001-11-28 08:48 am (UTC)

Please continue

From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
I have no problems with WaG, on the contrary, he's become a really deep character.
I'm not directly involved with him IC, I just see the public consequences. People with PCs closer to him might perhaps think differently, but I don't.
Date: 2001-11-28 08:51 am (UTC)

Whoa!

From: [identity profile] zenmeisterin.livejournal.com
Hold on a moment Robert! WaG is a GREAT character! Remember how mayhemic Ling can get: the freehold isn't usually destroyed on purpose. Also, some characters want to see him dead/gone, others don't. Some want the power for themselves, some want it for others. A lot like any other game really.

I know being at the Top causes all sorts of IC/OOC shite but at least with the IC, it's to be expected. The anti-noble commoners are not going to like WaG by default. The noble-supporters (usually other nobles) either want the position themselves or don't really care who has it either way.

Yes, WaG IS a genuinely nice guy. Some don't like it and wish he would 'get real' (mostly the unseelie but not always) while others don't mind him but don't do anything to stop the others hassling him.

Ultimately, it's your call and this is only one person's opinion. It's lonely at the top & nice guys finish last. It IS the WoD after all...


Isi
Date: 2001-11-28 08:55 am (UTC)

Re: Whoa!

From: [identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com
Just for the record, the IC/OOC shite balance is about 95%/5%...

I suffer major 'leakage' from WaG - i.e. moods that he's in transfer into moods that I am in...always worrying.

It's just...I pretty much monopolized Sunday's game...and I _really_ don't want to spoil things for others..

Robert
Date: 2001-11-28 09:10 am (UTC)

Re: Whoa!

From: [identity profile] raggedyman.livejournal.com
95%/5%?!?! a seriouse round of applause for that figure, both to you and the players as a whole!

cant think of much to add to what Isi has said: your playing a seelie noble sidhe, as such your a target for unseelie/quasiseelie, commoners and non sidhe. Your going to get this crap, thats the nature of the beast.

As to the 'leakage', I can understand that to an extent. Take a break for a while and talk it over with your ST
Date: 2001-11-28 09:47 am (UTC)

Re: Whoa!

From: [identity profile] zenmeisterin.livejournal.com
Monopolised???

Eh?

No you didn't! Anyway, you're the DUKE ferchrissakes! It's YOUR gaff and YOU are the head honch. Well, WaG is at any rate ;-)
Date: 2001-11-28 01:32 pm (UTC)

Re: Whoa!

From: [identity profile] raggedyman.livejournal.com
"Focal point" "public face" or "obviouse person" perhapse, but its not like you nicked all the fun. I got up to loads of stuff that didnt involve the duke. Yes you get a bit more limelight but at the same time you dont get to do the private stuff. imo it all balances out.
Date: 2001-11-28 09:09 am (UTC)

No don't do it

From: (Anonymous)
Hmm lets see. First off i dunno why people seem to dislike WAG at the moment he is one of the good guys. Hey the characters and NPCs down our way think he's great and they would be happy to support him, perhaps he should come to the Thorpe for a getaway break! As to stopping playing him, as the subject says don't do it. I like the character and it is a shame that some people seem to want to take him down for no reason i can see, but hey i guess thats just the game i suppose. Oh well enough of my general ramblings, must be off.

Paul 'Pot' Thomas
Date: 2001-11-28 09:56 am (UTC)

Re: No don't do it

From: [identity profile] sesquipedality.livejournal.com
Well, you know Sarah supports WaG, even though perhaps she has more reason than most not to do so. I think what you're seeing is symptomatic of the fact that there really aren't many "good guys" in Reading Changeling, which makes the whole thing a bit unbalanced. I think it's a shame, since a bit more evenly balanced game would provide for much more tension and interest. But you can't legislate as to what people will play.

WaG is beset from all sides. Perhaps that feeling is leaking to you too. I think WaG is good for the chronicle. In some ways he's what's keeping the whole thing from collapsing in a nasty heap.
Date: 2001-11-28 09:59 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] windzswept.livejournal.com
I like WaG if its any consolation... unfortuntely the one time I was anywhere near you in changeling Alice was in a foul mood. The december game will be fun... ~grins~

it is lonely at the top... we do need mre pc dukes and duchesses.... hmmmm...

damn it... need a game near me that has that type of position going...

Steph
Date: 2001-11-29 03:27 am (UTC)

Save our Duke appeal!

From: [identity profile] aardnebby.livejournal.com
WaG does not monopolise the game, he is simply a focal point (and damn fun to rp with!). Mainly since the motley started up (at least it looks that way from here) things have shifted, the game used to be _all_ seelie, now people wanna play the "bad" guys. The problem is, the unseelie believe in chaos without reason. Result is havoc of course. Besides which, WaG provides the last bastion for the Seelie, no one I know of has directly challenged WaG because most people respect, like or fear him, if not several or all of the above. Finally on this point, WaG _is_ a good guy, which is why many of the Unseelie would prefer other sidhe targets (Gabriel, Brendan and Lankin to name but a few), unfortunately WaG is high ranking, and fairly prominant, fame has a price :(

As for the wildly seesawing seelie/unseelie balance, I think that is something that will work out when people get over the novelty.

Steve Lloyd, AKA Wedgie
Date: 2001-12-03 04:05 am (UTC)

You know...

From: (Anonymous)
this sort of worrying is one of two things.

Either it's a pathetic cry for validation...

...or it's the sign of a really good roleplayer.

I think that giving yourself a reality check once in a while is a good thing, and that RBS is one of life's great unselfish people. So it must be that he's just a good roleplayer.

Don't worry about it, Robert. The chances are that this is just a passing phase. Relax, and enjoy being a lightning conductor for as long as it lasts.

- DW.
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